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30 - day money-back customer and horse satisfaction - guaranteed!
If for any reason during your test ride, you are not completely satisfied - return the saddle - no questions asked–money back (less shipping) – no contracts to sign – ride in your saddle not a test or demo saddle, as each saddle is sculpted by hand each seat can vary ever so slightly from saddle to saddle and I KNOW as a rider who has been down that path before, YOU will NEVER GET what the test or demo saddle felt like - PERIOD!
A guarantee like this tells you that: Hill View Farms
â WANTS you to be COMPLETELY confident in your saddling purchase.

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Original Peruvian Saddles by Rain Tree

EVOLUTIONARY SADDLESä   offers 6 different saddles trees for 12 saddle models.


Working Trail 

Liberty  

 Caliente  


Pony Express

 


Express 


Freedom 

 


Officer


The Battery 
 


Plantation 

 


Dressage

 


Cutback


Jumper

Engineered to fit horses and mules - No fancy gimmicks or slick options. We sell a saddle that is practical and functional. 
An easy purchase and if the saddle is not right for  whatever reason, you
GET YOUR MONEY BACK.-satisfaction guaranteed!

NEWS FLASH: Our new plant is up and saddles are shipping! Feedback has been out of this world! To date, with so many orders we need to become extremely efficient.  Orders are built according to those placed first along with other others in that same model line - if possible.  This means that a build time can take as little as 3 weeks up to 3 months.  We currently are able to get 4 to 5 saddles completed each week with some available for inventory. Yippee!  However demand is still at a point that full inventory - ship on demand is not yet possible.  Therefore too hold your place in line (for models that we do not have inventory on), we require  25% deposit.  This deposit will secure your order, which at anytime, you can cancel and receive a FULL refund.  Once the saddle is completed payment in full is required within 30 days or your deposit will be returned, less any custom charges.
Thank You for your patience and understand during this time of growth. And for those of you who call in for delivery updates and as we use terms that you are unfamiliar with, here is the process of how your saddle is being made. giving you a visual on where your saddle is during the building process.

Western (Is a saddle that has a horn on the fork with a well in it)  Click for schematic of a western saddle.

Western Working Tree - Working Trail   

 

 


Working Trail 
     

Western Pleasure Trail Tree (Caliente & Liberty)


 Caliente

Liberty
   

Endurance (Is a saddle that is a cross between a western and english saddle that does not have a saddle horn but has a well)

The Endurance Tree - (Pony Express, Officer, Freedom & Express) 


Pony Express   

    Officer

Freedom
 

 


     Express 

The McClellan Tree - (The Battery)  


The Battery 
     

English (Does not have a fork with a well, but a pommel)  Click for schematic of English saddle.

The English Pleasure Tree - (Pleasure Plantation & Dressage)


Pleasure Plantation 
 


Dressage

   

The Traditional Cutback Tree (The Classic Cutback & Jumper CT)

 

 


The classic cutback

The Jumper CT
   

To order a saddle you must call in so that your order can be customized for you and your horse.
Value Added   Part of what we do as a dealer and rider, using the equipment, we know the specifications as to what the saddle should be built to.
I’m sure you are not aware that about ONE THIRD of all saddles that come from a manufacturer have something wrong. In the 16 years I’ve been selling saddles I have seen most everything.  I have found a lot of cosmetic problems, like saddles that come with suede seats that were ordered with smooth, extra padded seats that were not ordered, a saddle where one fender was black and the other brown, and stirrups and leathers on backwards! While these are so noticeable that you’d see right away, there are a lot of things only an experienced eye will detect. I’ve see girth and latigo keepers put on the wrong side, rigging not usable, panels mounted crooked, trees crooked or so thick that the panels did not perform, panels assembled upside down, Blevins buckles on backwards, panels not properly spaced or set for proper movement and crooked trees. (Remember manufacturers – for the most part, have only time to manufacture, not ride or even use their equipment or better yet don’t even OWN horses to know how to properly saddle or even identify a bad fit!)  As a consumer, would you know if a tree was crooked or a panel was mounted too tightly or assembled incorrectly?   
Can you trust your experience to know if you have a correctly built saddle that will fit you and your horse? Do you want to take a chance on spending $100.00 or so in shipping a defective saddle back to the manufacturer and waiting up to 2 months for your saddle to be fixed and returned while they have your money, or to be told they will not provide a refund?
On another note, I am often asked why we carry, or cease to carry, certain brands of merchandise. The answer is pretty simple. Things change, and if the changes don’t have a positive impact on my customers, or their horses, I change too. I see myself as your personal quality control mechanism for all things horse/camping related.  Some examples of negative or potentially negative changes would be a change in ownership of a company, delivery, quality or warranty issues, exchange rates and shipping charge changes. A positive reason to change might be finding a product that delivers better value or improved performance.
Sometimes these changes come after I start getting negative feed back from customers or after I start seeing a disproportionate number of orders I have to return to a manufacture for defects or corrections, or a lack of consistency in either product or service. Sometimes they come after a manufacture comes to me with a superior product.
That’s why it’s different doing business with an objective third party – I can, and will, be there to look after your interests.
What do you get when you buy a saddle from Hill View Farms®?
 To assure you make the right choice I offer a FREE saddle-fitting service that includes an equine evaluation/palpation if you bring your horse to me or for $100 plus travel expenses I can come to you.  I know the specifications as to how each saddle should be built, and I inspect everything we sell before it goes out the door to assure it meets those specifications.  Everyone who purchases a saddle receives a copy of   Cathy's Saddling “How to Saddle” DVD which demonstrated  how to properly saddle and use your new equipment and a saddle care kit to keep it looking like new for years, We also offer an exceptional Lay-a-way policy – for a non refundable 10% deposit you’ll have a year to pay off balance.
But the most import thing you get when you buy from Hill View Farms® is a 30-day ride before you buy– no questions asked –money back (less shipping) – no contracts to sign – ride in your saddle not a test saddle -return policy. 
Providing the customer with the BEST panel saddle, at the BEST price with the BEST service and technical experience in the saddling industry. As our customers say and I agree.  "I try not to hurt my horse and I want what is best for him". 
***Please note: If any saddle company, maker or dealer will not give you a money back ride on a saddle, TURN AND WALK AWAY! It makes no difference who makes the saddle or what brand, if you can not get a test-ride with a money back agreement then you WILL BE TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF and both you and your horse will have paid dearly for your mistake.
Remember if for any reason during your ride, you are not completely satisfied - return the saddle. 
As I say, the hardest part about fitting these saddles is fitting the RIDER - not the horse. 
"Now that really says something about the products we sell and our position that we want the best for you!"
What do customers  have to say? click here   
On another issue - We have wrestled with the pricing issues for what we do. Some people seem to always keep on at us to give them a discount or special treatment and some accept our fees. We came to believe that it was not fair to the ones who didn't try to beat us down to give discounts to the ones who do. Therefore, we established some objective criteria that we use - in our case based on the complexity of the situation, which we can judge by number of accounts, and the totals size of the assets we manage.

As we've started our new saddle business we've evaluated every aspect of our business. Part of this process involved consulting with a number of current customers as well as some outside experts. We were very satisfied to learn that we were doing most things really well - that we deliver quality and value, that our service and guarantees are well above industry norms, and that our customer satisfaction ratings are very high.

Our financial consultant has advised that we establish some clear pricing practices. Some people seem to believe that the prices I quote are the starting point for negation, and from time to time I have allowed myself to get drawn into that. That can no longer be the case. We will continue to offer high quality merchandise, personalized service and guarantees at prices that are fair, competitive and firm.

 It is not fair to the customers who know I need a certain profit margin to stay in business to provide discounts to those who want to play "lets make a deal," only later to find out that they could have saved a tidy sum, if they waited or pleaded a hard luck story for a savings. Please, don't even ask me to do so. However, from time to time, to reduce inventory I will mark down some items. "Sale" and closeout items will be noted on the website.

The good news is the policy for multiple purchases of saddles [for use by the same family],  will be 5% on the second saddle and 10% on all subsequent saddles when purchased at the same time alone, with no combining or other discounts or promotions. Thank you all for your continued support.

Extraordinary Performance
EVOLUTIONARY SADDLES ä
I personally have been riding and selling the various panel saddles since 1992, I have seen systems come and go and some reborn again.  I have worked with various manufacturers.  I have dealt with the aftermath from companies gone by and those issues that manufactures fail to address because they DON'T ride  AND I MEAN RIDE, - shoot and some don't even own horses or fit enough horses to gain enough experience to become an expert.  Folks, there are only so many hours in a day. What do you do with that time?  You can be a professional spokes person - endorse products, show, ride or train horses, you can massage and provide medical care for horses and you can build saddles.  But you CAN'T do it all.  Time does NOT allow for it.  I choose to RIDE and work with customers and their horses.  In the off season (November through February) I do not ride but I write, sew, etc.  You get the idea.  So with my huge amount of field experience I am proud to introduce this wonderful system.

To illustrate the incredible flex and comfort fit of these panels, I saddled my broad backed, slightly mutton withered horse with both an English and Western  saddle and took pictures as you can see below. I did not use any pads to "hide" the true fit of the saddle. You can see how the panels form around her shoulder. I then slid my hand under the panel and lifted up with my knuckles. Look how easy it is to move and bend these panels, how incredibly soft they are. I do not have a big strong hand, as you can see by the photo. Your horses shoulders are free to move completely, without any interference from the saddle. Can you do this with your current saddle? Try these amazing saddles, compare them to others, put the saddle on "bare" to your equines back using NO PADS to hide a bad fit and cinch the saddle down. Put your hands all over underneath the saddle. Even have someone sit in the saddle. What you feel is what your horse feels.
Too see the different back shapes that this incredible panel saddle fits Click here  What do the different back shapes look like? Click here

 
NOTE:  This is my hand on the front edge of the panel without a rider in the saddle
   
So now go and perform this test to your current saddle and compare.
 Remember, here at Hill View Farms, we thoroughly test all of our products.  Every year we put 1000 miles of real  horse-back riding miles on our horses.  We test and then use only the best products and put our money where our mouth is.  We RIDE.
The photos below are that of this amazing panel in action shown on my dinning room table, (and remember that this saddle was NOT designed to fit a dinning room table). But, I just had to show you how the panels can mash flat for a flat back or mutton-withered horse and then curve up to fit a real 'A' frame horse. Now THAT is a saddle that can really fit a wide variety of back shapes with no additional adjusting by you, the customer. Now you know why we LOVE our saddles and so do our horses!

Mutton withers?  A frame withers?  A flat rear back or an angled rear back? A soft shoulder?  A deformed shoulder?  Or how about a knobby one? A sway back?  A flat top line?  How about an angled shoulder with a flat rear back - the twist?  System X fits them all.

   

How about that tree?  Narrow thin, strong bars with faired ends allow free movement of the System X panels that give the rider close contact. 
Just 1.25 inches from the back of the horse to the bar of the saddle.  Add a pad that is 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick and then compare that to ANY other saddle.
  But that saddle when viewed from the rear REALLY looks high off of the horses back!!! YIKES.  Click here for Cathy's cheesy answer.

YES... This is a system that can fit a wide variety of back shapes and allow you to go freely from horse to horse  with no additional adjusting by you, the customer. Click here for more information on how  One Saddle can fit a variety of different shaped backs .

THESE Saddles WORK.  No fancy gimmicks or slick options.  We sell you a saddle that is and practical and functional.  An easy purchase and if the saddle is not right for whatever reason, you GET YOUR MONEY BACK
 Personally, I am tired of being ripped off by **** companies and so we tell it how it is - Period.  

EVOLUTIONARY SADDLES ä will have six saddle Trees, representing 12 different saddle models:

As part of our commitment to quality:  Before any saddle leaves the production house, each saddle will have gone through a two person signed inspection.  The saddle leather will have been conditioned, the panels oiled and lastly the entire saddle will be delivered with the Hill View Farmsâ  luster shine.  The saddle is ready to ride when it arrives.  All of the saddles will have System X panels and a saddle tree in which the weight of the saddle will be less by up to 20%, yet strong enough to carry a 10 year warrantee against breakage. 

 

 

 

The Working Trail

$2,195.00 Basic Package

 

For determining your seat size CLICK HERE

 

More photo's of the Working Trail

 

Click to follow along on how your saddle is made.

 

THE working trail  $2,195.00 Basic Package

A classical western saddle featuring a low reining style fork with moderate under cut swells that is toped off with a practical horn makes this western trail saddle great for roping and extremely versatile.  With this compact design this saddle is great for any breed of horse, from Arabians to mules alike or even the narrowest of thoroughbreds to the widest flat backed Quarter horses this saddle will perform. This saddle also makes a super youth saddle.  It is perfect to keep from over-powering a small rider or from covering a horse from tail to ears.  With this saddle being narrower through the twist than traditional saddle models, and with the seat slightly dished to the cantle makes this saddle comfortable for the all day ride.  As for show, just jazz it up with a little extra silver and you have yourself a beautiful western show saddle. So whether in the show ring, on the trial or even working cows this is the perfect all around classic western saddle. 

Seat Size:  15, 16 and 17 inch
Weight: 24, 25 and 26 lbs.  *  Without stirrups also saddles may vary +/- 2 pounds through different thickness of leather, hardware and other points during the building-process.
Panel length: 22.7 inches on 15 inch seat: 23.77 inches on 16 inch seat and 24.77 inches on a 17 inch seat.  All designed for up to a 3-inch scapula overlap
Bar length: 20 inches on 15-inch seat and 21 inches bars on 16 inch seat and 22 inch bars on 17-inch seat sizes.
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.

Saddle color:  Black, Brown or two tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle # 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch.
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide. With a moderate twist.
Seat Style: ½ inch smooth padding
Blocking: N/A
Fork: 12" wide and 3" high with leg notch in swells
Horn: 2 1/4" high and cap is 2 1/2" 
Cantle: 4 " high as measured from the seat and 12 1/2" wide with Cheyenne roll
Skirts: Semi-square with fleece lining
Fenders: Round bottom  9" wide
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Pad: N/A
Leather: All top grain with pieces, edged, slickered, grooved and finished..
Leather Rosettes: Yes at 1 ¼ and 1 3/4 inch.
Girth and latigo keepers:  Yes
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  A pair of breast Dee’s, rear rigging Dee’s,  2 pair of accessory Dee’s under rosettes front and back of saddle with a crupper Dee.
Strings: 2-pairs of 30 inch strings on dee's under front and rear rosettes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with Stainless Steel rings with latigo and nylon reinforced off billet and nylon reinforced rear billets.
Stirrups: Leather covered bells or Easy Ride with non-slip cushioned footpad. Select
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
15 to 16 Diamond / flash cut Conchos: 
All of your selection and placement.  Set of 4 over Dee’s, 4 button, set of bridle loop conchos for headstall, 3 breast collar concho’s, pair of bit end conchos for reins and horn cap (horn cap that can be engraved with riders name or select name plate on cantle). 
Border Tooling
Hoof pick holder
Extra set of strings on dee under seat concho including Brass
Accessory Dee’s under all concho’s and extra hardware
Rear flank billets
Nylon reinforced rear cinch
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad or corrective pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Safety
Other necessities for saddling

 

 

 

The classic caliente

$2,195.00 Basic Package

 


 

For determining your seat size CLICK HERE

More Photo's click here


Click to follow along on how your saddle is made.

THE CLASSIC CALIENTE  $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Liberty this style by far most popular trail riding western saddle bar none! Comfort spells The Classic Caliente. With a contemporary design featuring, tear drop fenders, straight cantle binding, a slick fork and a deep seat pocket gives the rider comforting lower back support for the all day ride. Another attribute to this little wonder is the formed foamed thigh rolls you come up against, instead of the hard wooden swells of a traditional tree when your mule or horse does the emphasis Arabian Side Step of 20 feet. The nicely padded soft-seat uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape, no stitching lines that can rub you raw in this saddle. This saddle is popular with all breeds and types of horses and mules too! The round skirt design gives it ability to fit the various back shapes – long and short, dippy and straight. This saddle has a narrow to moderate twist that allows the rider to ride all day long without getting fatigued in the knees and hips.  Another plus for this saddle is the easy free flowing movement of the fenders that virtually eliminate the problems that some folks have with their legs and feet falling asleep.  As for security, it is all there.  With the ultra thin tree and advance panel design allows the rider a, next-to and down, on-the-horse secure seat. Oh… and don’t forget that horn… you can really use it.  Great for ponying young stock along, yet low enough where you will not easily get impaled. In closing, the only difference between the Caliente and the Liberty is that the Caliente has the blocking. Photo showing difference.

Seat size:  15, 16 and 17 inch
Weight:
23, 24 and 26 lbs.  *  Without stirrups also saddles may vary +/- 2 pounds through different thickness of leather, hardware and other points during the building-process.
Panel length:
22.7,  23.77 and 24.77 inches.  All designed for up to a 3-inch scapula overlap.
Skirt Length:  25, 26 and 27 inches as panels is inside and there is the seam allowance.

Bar length: 20.5,  21.5 and 22.5 inch bars.
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years

Saddle color:  Black, Brown or Two-tone.
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle # 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch.
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide. With a moderate twist.
Seat Style: ½ inch smooth padding or the one-inch Soft-Seat (Photo)
Blocking: Upper thigh blocking.
Fork:  Slick – 3 1/2" high and 8" wide at base
Horn:  2 1/4" High and Cap 2 1/2  inches
Cantle: measured from seat 4 1/2" high (varies with seat padding) and 13" wide with straight cantle binding.
Skirts: Round contoured with fleece lining
Fenders: Round tear drop 8“ wide backed with boot leather.
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, and Pad: N/A
Leather: All top grain with pieces, edged, slickered, grooved and finished..
Leather Rosettes: 1 ¼ and 1 3/4 inch.
Girth and latigo keepers:  Yes
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  A pair of breast Dee’s, pair of accessory Dee’s under rosettes at base of cantle and at fork, pair of footman loops on both fork and cantle, rear rigging Dee and crupper Dee. 
Strings: 2-pairs of 30 inch strings on dee's under front and rear rosettes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle. Stainless Steel rings with latigo and nylon reinforced off billet.
Stirrups: Leather covered bells or Easy Ride with non-slip cushioned footpad. Select
The Signature Series
15 to 16 Diamond / flash cut Conchos: 
All of your selection and placement.  Set of 4 over Dee’s, 4 button, set of bridle loop conchos for headstall, 3 breast collar concho’s, pair of bit end conchos for reins and horn cap (horn cap that can be engraved with riders name or select name plate on cantle). 
Border Tooling
Hoof pick holder
Extra set of strings on dee under seat concho
Accessory Dee’s under all concho’s and extra hardware including Brass
Rear flank billets
Nylon reinforced rear cinch
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad or corrective pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Safety
Other necessities for saddling

 

 

 

 

The Liberty

$2,195.00 Basic Package



 

For determining your seat size CLICK HERE

More Photos - of the Liberty

 

Click to follow along on how your saddle is made.


 

THE Liberty  $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Caliente, this style by far most popular trail riding western saddle bar none! Comfort spells The Liberty. With a contemporary design featuring, tear drop fenders, straight cantle binding, a slick fork and a deep seat pocket that gives comforting lower back support for the all day ride. This saddle is popular with all breeds and types of horses and mules too! The round skirt design gives it ability to fit the various back shapes – long and short, dippy and straight. This saddle has a narrow to moderate twist that allows the rider to ride all day long without getting fatigued in the knees and hips.  The nicely padded soft-seat uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape, no stitching lines that can rub you raw in this saddle. Another plus for this saddle is the easy free flowing movement of the fenders that virtually eliminate the problems that some folks have with their legs and feet falling asleep.  As for security, it is all there.  With the ultra thin tree and advance panel design allows the rider a, next-to and down, on-the-horse secure seat. Oh… and don’t forget that horn… you can really use it.  Great for ponying young stock along, yet low enough where you will not easily get impaled. In closing, the only difference between the Liberty and the Caliente is that the Liberty does not have the blocking. Photo showing difference.

Seat size:  15, 16 and 17 inch
Weight:
23, 24 and 26 lbs.  *  Without stirrups also saddles may vary +/- 2 pounds through different thickness of leather, hardware and other points during the building-process.
Panel length:
22.7,  23.77 and 24.77 inches.  All designed for up to a 3-inch scapula overlap.
Skirt Length:  25, 26 and 27 inches as panels is inside and there is the seam allowance.

Bar length: 20.5,  21.5 and 22.5 inch bars.
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years

Saddle color:  Black, Brown or Two-tone.
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle # 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch.
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide. With a moderate twist.
Seat Style: ½ inch smooth padding or the one-inch Soft-Seat  (Photo)
Blocking: N/A
Fork:  Slick – 3 1/2" high and 8" wide at base
Horn:  2 1/4" High and Cap 2 1/2  inches
Cantle: measured from seat 4 1/2" high (varies with seat padding) and 13" wide with straight cantle binding.
Skirts: Round contoured with fleece lining
Fenders: Round tear drop 8“ wide backed with boot leather.
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, and Pad: N/A
Leather: All top grain with pieces, edged, slickered, grooved and finished..
Leather Rosettes: 1 ¼ and 1 3/4 inch.
Girth and latigo keepers:  Yes
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  A pair of breast Dee’s, pair of accessory Dee’s under rosettes at base of cantle and at fork, pair of footman loops on both fork and cantle, rear rigging Dee and crupper Dee. 
Strings: 2-pairs of 30 inch strings on dee's under front and rear rosettes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle. Stainless Steel rings with latigo and nylon reinforced off billet.
Stirrups: Leather covered bells or Easy Ride with non-slip cushioned footpad. Select
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
15 to 16 Diamond / flash cut Conchos: 
All of your selection and placement.  Set of 4 over Dee’s, 4 button, set of bridle loop conchos for headstall, 3 breast collar concho’s, pair of bit end conchos for reins and horn cap (horn cap that can be engraved with riders name or select name plate on cantle). 
Border Tooling
Hoof pick holder
Extra set of strings on dee under seat concho
Accessory Dee’s under all concho’s and extra hardware including Brass
Rear flank billets
Nylon reinforced rear cinch
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad or corrective pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Safety
Other necessities for saddling

 

 

 

 

THE pony express

$2,195.00 Basic Package

More Photos of the Pony Express

 

For determining your seat size CLICK HERE

 

Click to follow along on how your saddle is made.

THE pony express   $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree used in the Express, Freedom and the Officer, The Pony Express is the western version on build on this endurance tree.  This Pony Express is just what the name implies.  A western saddle built for action, speed and function with nothing in the way to bind your legs or hold you back.  This is a saddle for the western rider or for the distance rider all of who are seeking an exceptionally light weight supportive western saddle without a gut jabbing saddle horn. This saddle delivers the rider a secure low slick fork that is anatomically designed allowing for a fast and easy handgrip. This saddle has a nicely padded seat or the soft-seat that uses both upholstery and neoprene foams with no stitching lines that can rub you raw, that have been hand-skived and shaped to an anatomically correct fitting pocket to sit back in while you eat up the miles.

Seat Size:  15, 16, 17 and the 17BB inch tree
Weight at: 15 inch seat 23#, 16-#24 and 17 - 25 lbs.
Panel Length: 15 inch seat 23 inches and on 16 and 17 inch seat length is 24 and 25 inches
Bar Length: 20-inch bar on 15 inch and 21-inch bar on 16 and 17-inch saddle.
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black, Brown or two tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle # 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch.
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: N/A
Fork:  Slick – 3 inches high
Horn: N/A
Cantle: 3.5 inches tall and 12 inches wide – straight cantle binding.
Skirts: Round contoured with synthetic fleece lining
Fenders: Round tear drop “ wide on hanger bar
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Saddle pad: N/A
Leather Rosettes: 1 ¼ and 1 3/4 inch.
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  Pair of breast Dee’s, 1 - pair of accessory Dee’s at base of cantle, 2 pair of footman loops on face of fork, and rear cantle, rear rigging Dee, and crupper Dee. 
Strings: 2-pairs of strings - in rosettes.
Girth and latigo keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle. Stainless Steel rings with latigo and nylon reinforced off billet.
Stirrups: Leather covered bells or Easy Ride with non-slip cushioned footpad . Select
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
15 to 16 Diamond / flash cut Conchos: 
All of your selection and placement.  Set of 4 over Dee’s, 4 button, set of bridle loop conchos for headstall, 3 breast collar concho’s, pair of bit end conchos for reins and horn cap (horn cap that can be engraved with riders name or select name plate on cantle). 
Border Tooling
Hoof pick holder
Extra set of strings on dee under seat concho
Accessory Dee’s under all concho’s and extra hardware  including Brass
Rear flank billets
Nylon reinforced rear cinch
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad or corrective pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Other necessities for saddling

 

 

 

THE EXPRESS

$2,195.00 Basic Package

 


For determining your seat size CLICK HERE

 

Click to follow along on how your saddle is made.

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THE express  $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Officer, Freedom and the Pony Express, this endurance saddle The Express is a wonderful and secure saddle.  With 2-inch soft, plush upper thigh and knee blocking it offers terrific security during the unexpected shy and super for working young stock.  This saddle too offer has an adjustable stirrup hander bar allows for one-inch leathers to be set in one of three positions for rider comfort and for different leg positions from dressage to moderate jumping.  The saddle has a moderate to low rise that allows the rider more room to move in the saddle while still offering a great pocket to sit back in. This endurance saddle has a wonderful smooth rounded fork that is shaped anatomically to offer the perfect handhold – the ultimate in additional security and support and a nicely padded soft-seat uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape with no stitching lines that can rub you raw in this saddle. This saddle is great for the endurance rider, trainers and naturally trail riders and also those who enjoy a western saddle but are tired of lugging around all the all the extra weight in leather when they just want to ride around for a few hours. A great saddle for all breeds of horses and mules too.

Seat Size:  15, 16, 17 and the 17BB inch tree
Weight at: 15 inch seat 19#, 16 is 20 # and 17 is 21 pounds.
Panel Length: 15 inch seat 23 inches, 16 inch seat 24 inches and 17 inch seat 25 inches
Bar Length: 20-inch bar on 15 inch seat, 21-inch bar on 16 inch seat and 22 inch bar on 17 inch saddle
Saddle Tree: 
Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.

Saddle color:  Black, Brown or two-tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle with 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding.How to know?
Blocking: Full thigh and knee
Fork: slick 3 inches high
Horn:  N/A
Cantle: 3.5 inches tall  and 12 inches wide
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups*: N/A
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  Pair of breast Dee’s, 1 pr. of footman loops at base of fork,  2 pair of accessory Dee’s – rear bar, 2 pair footman loops on cantle with crupper Dee.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped crossfire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
* Stirrup leather:  Biothane with stainless steel cam lock buckles with leather sleeves (will come with leather bell stirrups) or top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves. Select
Stirrup Hanger Bar:  3-position for a 1-inch leather.
Saddle Pad:  Saddle Sox ä - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color.
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
Border Tooling
Silver 
Your selection and placement. 
Accessory hardware    including Brass
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Stirrups

Other necessities for saddling

 

 

 

 

THE officer

$2,195.00 Basic Package

 


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THE officer    $2,195.00    Basic Package

Built off of the same tree used in the Express, Freedom and Pony Express, The Officer is a secure saddle with a low designed fork that is out-of-the-way, and shaped for the perfect hand hold, but what is really sweet is that this saddles has a flap design with both front and rear thigh blocking for the best in security. The seat in this saddle has a lower rise allowing the rider room to move, while still offering a great pocket to sit back in. The seat it self is nicely padded and the soft-seat uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape with no stitching lines to rub you raw in this saddle. This saddle too has the adjustable stirrup hander bar that allows for one-inch leathers to be set in one of three positions for rider comfort and for different leg positions from dressage to moderate jumping.  A super trail or endurance saddle and looks performs great on all breeds and sizes of horses including mules too. Just sit back and eat up the miles.

Seat Size:  15, 16, 17 and the 17BB inch tree
Weight at: 15 inch seat 19#, 16 is 20 # and 17 is 21 pounds.
Panel Length: 15 inch seat 23 inches and on 16 and 17 inch seat length is 24 and 25 inches
Bar Length: 20-inch bar on 15 inch and 21-inch bar on 16 and 17-inch saddle
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black, Brown or two-tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle, # 24 needle with 6 to 8 stitches per inch
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: Upper and rear thigh
Fork: slick 3 inches high
Horn:  N/A
Cantle: 3.5 inches tall  and 12 inches wide
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups *: N/A
Hardware:
All Stainless Steel.  Pair of rings on footman loops at front for breast collar attachment, 3 pair footman loops – on front of bars, rear bars and cantle, and a crupper Dee.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
* Stirrup leather:  Biothane with stainless steel cam lock buckles with leather sleeves (will come with leather bell stirrups) or top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves. Select
Stirrup Hanger Bar:  3-position for a 1-inch leather.
Saddle Pad:  Saddle Sox ä  - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color.
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
Border Tooling
Silver 
Your selection and placement. 
Accessory hardware    including Brass
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Stirrups

Other necessities for saddling

The freedom

$2,195.00 Basic Package

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THE freedom $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree used in the Express, Pony Express and the Officer, The Freedom is saddle model for distance riders with professional needs and for those who are seeking an exceptionally light but supportive saddle. This secure saddle has a low slick fork A design that allows for a fast and easy hand grip.  The seat is nicely padded and uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape with no stitching lines to rub you raw.  The seat itself is flatter and with this low rise allows the rider more room to move in the saddle while still offering a great pocket to sit back in.  The flap has an upper thigh blocking that frees up the riders leg while still offering security for that unexpected shy.  This saddle too has an adjustable stirrup hander bar allowing for one-inch leathers to be set in one of three positions for rider comfort and for different leg positions from dressage to moderate jumping.  A super and versatile saddle for gaited and non-gaited horses and mules a-like, that come in all different sizes and shapes.

Seat Size:  15, 16, 17 and the 17BB inch tree
Weight at: 15 inch seat 19#, 16 is 20 # and 17 is 21 pounds.
Panel Length: 15 inch seat 23 inches and on 16 and 17 inch seat length is 24 and 25 inches
Bar Length: 20-inch bar on 15 inch and 21-inch bar on 16 and 17-inch saddle.
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black, Brown or Two-tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 to match saddle # 24 needle with 6 to 8 stitches per inch
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style:1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: Upper thigh
Fork: slick 3 inches high
Horn:  N/A
Cantle: 3.5 inches tall  and 12 inches wide
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups: N/A
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  Pair of breast Dee’s, one pair of accessory Dee’s – base of cantle, one pair footman loops – on cantle with crupper Dee.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
* Stirrup leather:  Biothane with stainless steel cam lock buckles with leather sleeves (will come with leather bell stirrups)  or top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves. Select
Stirrup Hanger Bar:  3-position for a 1-inch leather.
Saddle Pad:  Saddle Sox ä - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color.

The Battery

$2,195.00 Basic Package

 

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THE Battery $2,195.00 Basic Package

This saddle is a modern replica of the original saddle used by the US Civil War horse-drawn artillery unit.  Still ACTIVE The New Ulm militia was established in 1863 for the city of New Ulm. Don, Cathy's husband has been a member of this militia since 1997. Don works,  trains, and rides the draft breed horses for many of the Battery's major functions.  The original McClellan saddle was developed for men during the 1800's who averaged in height of 5.5 to 5.7 and weighed  116 to 123 lbs., and who rode horses that were extremely narrow with razor type withers, (very much like the thoroughbred track horses of today.) Don knows exactly how this original equipment (YES the New Ulm Battery is using the ORIGINAL equipment!) can hurt a horse and cause him to perform badly. At last Don can make a difference.  This saddle, The Battery is the modern day replica - patterned off of  ORIGINAL equipment. Click for more information on the NEW ULM BATTERY   This McClellan replica has two important distinctions from the original: It’s comfortable for you and won’t cause pressure points on your horse. The substantial width dish in the seat makes it extremely comfortable for long hours of riding at any gate. The slightly narrowed rise helps keep you in the pocket of the seat.  The stirrup straps are adjustable which aids in security, in fast stops and comfort for all day work. The whole package makes riding  and add to that the  ability to tie gear front and rear on this saddle is legendary.

Seat Size:  16 and 17
Weight at:
16 inch seat size is 20 1lbs. and 17 is 21 lbs.
Panel Length:
23 inches and on 16 and  17 inch seat length is 24 and 25 inches
Bar Length: 22-inch bar on 16 and 17-inch saddle.
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black  or Brown
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 with # 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch to match saddle
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: N/A
Fenders: Slide fenders.
Fork: Slick and 4 inches tall
Horn:  N/A
Cantle: 5 tall 11 inches wide
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups: N/A
Embossments: Yes, on seat flap - US
Hardware:
Brass in the traditional time period or Stainless Steel.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
Stirrup leather:
  Top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves on a three position stirrup hanger bar.
Saddle Pad: Saddle Sox ä - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color or select riding cloth by Toklat with choice of style, color and trim.
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
Border Tooling
Silver 
Your selection and placement. 
Accessory hardware  
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Stirrups

Other necessities for saddling

the Plantation

$2,195.00 Basic Package

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THE pleasure plantation $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Dressage, The Pleasure Plantation is just as comfortable as it looks, it is like going home and & sitting back your lazy-boy recliner. This saddle may look like the Stitchdown in style but gone are the seat seams that can rub in all the wrong places.  The Pleasure Plantation comes standard with The nicely padded soft-seat uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape, no stitching lines that can rub you raw in this saddle, for real comfort no matter how long you ride. The Pleasure Plantation sports a deep seat pocket; a narrow to moderate twist and a moderate rise to the seat. It has a 3-position stirrup hanger that allows for different leg positions from dressage to moderate jumping on the Pleasure Plantation. Compete in competitive trail events over the weekend, and take dressage lessons during the week – all with the same saddle! A favorite pleasure trail saddle, for it’s comfort, #1 choice for gaited horse owners, super security with both front and rear thigh blocking all make this a super saddle for both gaited and non-gaited horses and mules alike.

Seat Size:  16.5, 17.5 and 18.5
Weight at:
Panel Length:
on 17.5 and 18.5 English saddles (panel length is 24 inches)
Bar Length: 20 inch bar on 16.5 inch seat and 19-inch bar on 17.5 and 18.5
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black, Brown or two-tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 to match saddle # 24 needle with 6 to 8 stitches per inch
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: Upper and rear thigh
Fork / Horn: N/A
Cantle: 12" wide and 3 1/2 " high
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups*: N/A
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  Pair of breast Dee’s, 1 pair footman loops – on cantle, 2 sets of accessory Dee’s on rear bar and crupper Dee.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
* Stirrup leather:  Biothane with stainless steel cam lock buckles with leather sleeves (will come with leather bell stirrups)  or top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves. Select
Stirrup Hanger Bar:  3-position for a 1-inch leather.
Saddle Pad:  Saddle Sox ä  - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color.

the dressage

$2,195.00 Basic Package

 

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THE dressage   $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Pleasure Plantation, The Dressage is contemporary yet conservative.  This beautiful saddle features a secure padded soft-seat that uses both upholstery and neoprene foams in the seat that is hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape.  This saddle has a deep seat pocket with a nice flat spot enabling the experienced rider to give proper aids to the horse.  This saddle has a high cantle for lower back support with a narrow to moderate twist and a moderate rise to the seat making this an excellent dressage saddle.  Unlike other saddles, which fix the rider in one position, the Dressage has a 3-position stirrup hanger that allows for different leg positions to change your position according to the needs of the horse you are riding.  The flap too features the in-flap pocket so that you can adjust, remove and select the kind of blocking you care to use for the type of work you will be doing in this saddle.  Not only can you use this saddle in show, but good, well-balanced Dressage saddles make excellent trail saddles as well.  Just remember that any hardware you add to your saddle is NOT allowable in the ring.  So check with your association’s regulations as to what and is not permissible for the level of dressage you will be competing in.

Seat Size:  16.5, 17.5 and 18.5
Weight at:
Panel Length:
(Waiting for tree) on 17.5 and 18.5 English saddles (panel length is 24 inches)
Bar Length: 20 inch bar on 16.5 inch seat and 19-inch bar on 17.5 and 18.5
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black
Thread color: Black
Seat Type:  Smooth Black
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: In flap pocket containing one pair of removable show blocking
Fork / Horn: N/A
Cantle: 12" wide and 3 1/2 " high
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups: N/A
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  Pair of breast Dee’s.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
Stirrup leather:  Top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves.

Stirrup Hanger Bar:  3-position for a 1-inch leather.
Saddle Pad:  Saddle Sox ä  - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color or select riding cloth in either black or white, square or contoured. 

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The Cutback

$2,195.00 Basic Package


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THE classic cutback $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Jumper, it is a low profile saddle that has security second to none. The nicely padded soft-seat uses both upholstery and neoprene foams, hand skived and shaped to an anatomically correct shape with no stitching lines that can rub you raw. The cutback pommel allows the rider to get as low and far forward on the horse when scrabbling up hills and the generous thigh rolls let you brace comfortably with your upper thighs on the down hill. You also have a more "leg-under" in the roughest going, thanks to close contact and centered seat of this wonderful saddle. The 3-position stirrup hanger that allows for different leg positions from dressage to moderate jumping. A super saddle not only for Endurance riders but also for many trainers and Dressage riders too. Many instructors use this saddle for its rider’s position and comfort in training. This is a saddle that can easily go from Arabians to Warm bloods and ponies too. And if you are a dressage rider that is going into endurance, this is the saddle for you.

Seat Size:  16.5, 17.5 and 18.5
Weight at: 16.5 inch seat is 18 lbs., 17.5 is 19 lbs, 18.5 is 20 lbs.
Panel Length:
23 inch on 16.5 and 17.5 inch seat sizes and 24 inch on 18.5 inch seat.
Bar Length:  20 inch bar on 16.5 inch seat and 19-inch bar on 17.5 and 18.5
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black, Brown or two-tone
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 size to match saddle with 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style:1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: Full upper and knee
Fork / Horn: N/A
Cantle: 10" wide and 2 3/4" high. 
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups*: N/A
Hardware: All Stainless Steel.  Pair of breast Dee’s, one pair footman loops – on cantle, two sets of accessory Dee’s on rear bar and crupper Dee.
Girth and Stirrup keeper:  Yes
Rigging: Dropped cross fire with adjustable Blevins buckle with 14-inch long nylon reinforced one-inch English billets.
* Stirrup leather:  Biothane with stainless steel cam lock buckles with leather sleeves (will come with leather bell stirrups)  or top grain 1” nylon reinforced leathers with sleeves. Select
Stirrup Hanger Bar:  3-position for a 1-inch leather.
Saddle Pad:  Saddle Sox ä  - synthetic in brown or black codura to match saddle color.
The Signature Series
Customize your saddle with the signature series
Border Tooling
Silver 
Your selection and placement. 
Accessory hardware    including Brass
Breast collar to match with silver accents if desired
Saddle sox ä or  choice of merino wool pad
Leather contoured girth
Neo-preen girth
Crupper
Headstall
Reins
Saddle cover
Stirrups

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The jumper

$2,195.00 Basic Package

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THE jumper ct  $2,195.00 Basic Package

Built off of the same tree as the Classic Cutback, this Jumping Combined Training saddle has a very comfortable seat compared to the typical jumping saddle.  Most jumping saddles have been paired down to their current size in a misguided attempt to reduce weight, and give the rider close contact.  The Jumping CT has a gentle curve to the seat and cut-back head frees the rider, and it spreads out the relentless concussion of jumping and with the shock adsorbing spring panels against the horses back, your horse can perform and move freely. This saddle sports the three- position stirrup hangers that allow you to move your leathers back into a legs-under position for dressage practice without switching saddles. The flap too has a forward design as well a an exterior soft knee blocking that opens up allowing for exact blocking placement or removal, as well as, rear blocking that performs the same.  This adjustable blocking offers the rider real security for the demands of serious jumping.  Available in a flat seat with ½ inch of foam for a deeper seat for the serious jumper or it is available with the Soft-Seat. This saddle makes for a wonderful all-purpose combined training saddle.  It is Fantastic... Sits and rides like a dream.

Seat Size:  16.5, 17.5 and 18.5
Weight at:
Panel Length:
23 inch on 16.5 and 17.5 inch seat sizes and 24 inch on 18.5 inch seat.
Bar Length: 20 inch bar on 16.5 inch seat and 19-inch bar on 17.5 and 18.5
Saddle Tree:  Yellow pine, fiber glassed and epoxy - guaranteed for 10 years.
Saddle color:  Black or Brown
Thread color: Black or Brown Twist #207 with # 24 needle and 6 to 8 stitches per inch to match saddle
Seat Type:  Smooth Black or Brown Upholstery Cowhide
Seat Style: 1 inch Soft-Seat or the standard ½ inch smooth neoprene padding. How to know?
Blocking: Two sets of removable blocking.  One set for front and the other for the rear of the in-flap pocket
Fork / Horn: N/A
Cantle: 10" wide and 2 3/4" high
Overlays, Tooling, Silver, Strings and Stirrups: N/A
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